30-30 powders
- Thread starter waco
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I think I gained 6" in height from the mud but did get to shoot the 30/30 with rx7. Pretty good first try, 145 PB 16gr red PC, 185GC 17gr rx7, BLL & red PC. From front sand bag and shoulder, 50 yds, 100 was a swamp. PCd were loaded a tad short. THe 145 group looks strange, guess I wiggled. Did pretty good with the 308 carbine also.
Charles Graff
Moderator Emeritus
4895, 3030 and H335 for full snort loads.
2400 and 4759 for less peppy loads.
I do note these are the powers in the original post, but darn, if it's good, it's good!
2400 and 4759 for less peppy loads.
I do note these are the powers in the original post, but darn, if it's good, it's good!
Ian
Notorious member
Wow, nearly MOA from a pistol even with the bullets yawing all over the place. I'd be pretty ecstatic about the group, and go back to the loading bench and do some head-scratching about what was making those PB bullets yaw so much. I get the same thing from some of my blackouts with heavy subsonic bullets when the bullets are a scoshe too small....but they still hang together in a respectable group just like yours.
If you discount the " low 5th round ", the other four are pretty tight considering they are being fired from a T/C Pistol at a full 100 yards with a 2X Burris pistol scope mounted on the Super 14 T/C. I felt certain that the " low round " was me not the load or the pistol. Notice the bullets were sized .310". That pistol has never shot very well with a .311 cast bullet.
That particular bullet is the original SAECO # 315 and was gas checked.
I remember the day that I shot that group.
My friend was looking through the spotting scope while I fired the group.
When the last shot was fired he said......." Well, you just shot a tighter group with a handgun at 100 yards than I can with my rifle at 100 yards. "
That particular bullet is the original SAECO # 315 and was gas checked.
I remember the day that I shot that group.
My friend was looking through the spotting scope while I fired the group.
When the last shot was fired he said......." Well, you just shot a tighter group with a handgun at 100 yards than I can with my rifle at 100 yards. "
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JWFilips
Well-Known Member
Well Ben,
As You say most folks always think "Rifle Powders" for rifles with cast! Why think that way when you are not even close to loading like jacketed bullet when using cast? Last weekend I put 5 .333" cast bullets ( from a well worn 98 8mm Mauser) into .375" center to center hole....well that was my best the rest were at about .5" per 5 shots This with 8.1 grains red dot. I have shot this rifle about 50 times trying all the "Advised" Rifle powder loads which where were a total waste of time!
Jim
As You say most folks always think "Rifle Powders" for rifles with cast! Why think that way when you are not even close to loading like jacketed bullet when using cast? Last weekend I put 5 .333" cast bullets ( from a well worn 98 8mm Mauser) into .375" center to center hole....well that was my best the rest were at about .5" per 5 shots This with 8.1 grains red dot. I have shot this rifle about 50 times trying all the "Advised" Rifle powder loads which where were a total waste of time!
Jim
Ian
Notorious member
It actually made me chuckle to read a couple of old hands remarking that everyone seems to want to use rifle powder for rifle loads. Ten years ago I was pulling my hair out because of exactly the opposite. Virtually everyone treated IMR 4227 as a "slow" powder and considered 1800 fps "high velocity".
JWFilips
Well-Known Member
Since this was the OP's original inquiry I felt that what I offered, to be exceptionally accurate, Low to medium, 30-30 loads with the 165 RD.
I don't know if I qualify "to do a lot of shooting" but on any given weekend.... 2 day range time will be at the least 200to 300 rounds.
My loads are easy on my body and shoot far more accurately then any "4 numbered" powders I have been instructed to use with cast bullets in the past 10 years!
Jim
waco
Springfield, Oregon
I need to get more into this mindset. One gun, one load. Sometimes I get lost in “testing”