.41 Magnum

[Josh]

Josh--There it is there, I knew it had to occur to someone. I just haven't seen it myself, and no one I knew had encountered the anomaly either.

It's my luck, but at least I know how to fix it. It happens a lot. That said, a quick hour of work and it's a hammer with cast or jacketed.

 

[fiver]

i've seen the 30-30 screwed up before too.
but someone had to work pretty hard at it.

Josh got one of those throw whatever chamber reamers we got in the bin and run off a few guns.
unfortunately that's been Rugers M-O the last decade or so.
i have a 44 special that's chambered similarly, gun shoots like a champ with the blued cylinder installed, the blued one sucks with the stainless cylinder installed.
don't even need to measure at that point I know where the problem lies.

 

[Petrol & Powder]

I've had very good luck with the throat dimensions on S&W revolvers. I’ve owned a lot of S&W revolvers and I’ve have found their throat dimensions to be extremely consistent. On very rare occasions I’ve had to open a couple of them up.

All my old Ruger DA Six-series revolvers have throats that are absolutely spot on and will just allow a .357” + gauge pin to pass. Same holds true for older GP-100/SP101 class revolvers. But several years ago, I screwed up and purchased a brand-new GP-100. That gun was a classic example of “some final assembly required”. I got it all sorted out and it was eventually a good shooting gun. It was sold on consignment when a very nice 6” S&W model 14 became available.

 

[Josh]

I've had very good luck with the throat dimensions on S&W revolvers. I’ve owned a lot of S&W revolvers and I’ve have found their throat dimensions to be extremely consistent. On very rare occasions I’ve had to open a couple of them up.

All my old Ruger DA Six-series revolvers have throats that are absolutely spot on and will just allow a .357” + gauge pin to pass. Same holds true for older GP-100/SP101 class revolvers. But several years ago, I screwed up and purchased a brand-new GP-100. That gun was a classic example of “some final assembly required”. I got it all sorted out and it was eventually a good shooting gun. It was sold on consignment when a very nice 6” S&W model 14 became available.

I like that, "some final assembly required". Ruger's are a great value, I find for the amount of time needed to adjust throats, I'm not worried about it. I'll hone them, move on and shoot very well for cheap money.

 

[CZ93X62]

Undersized throats are a mild annoyance and as posted above can be remedied with an hour or so of light effort. When throats are oversized (like late 1970s-and early 1980s S&W 44s and 45s) a properly-dimensioned mould is needed and perhaps an 11* bevel on the forcing cone to complete construction and enhance behavior.

 

[JustJim]

As a kid, I went with the .41 Mag when I couldn't find a .44 Special. I think as a beginning shooter/reloader, I lucked out in the choice because I didn't have to worry about the cylinder throat dimensions. The latest Ruger 44 Specials have had good measurements, but if brass availability were better, I'd probably go back to the .41 for good.

 

[Petrol & Powder]

I like that, "some final assembly required". Ruger's are a great value, I find for the amount of time needed to adjust throats, I'm not worried about it. I'll hone them, move on and shoot very well for cheap money.

Ruger’s are excellent values and I don’t want my comments to be perceived as negative. Even when Ruger’s quality control slipped they still had excellent customer service.
The older Ruger’s (like the DA Six series) were far better guns than they often got credit for.

 

[CZ93X62]

Ruger’s are excellent values and I don’t want my comments to be perceived as negative. Even when Ruger’s quality control slipped they still had excellent customer service.
The older Ruger’s (like the DA Six series) were far better guns than they often got credit for.

^^^ THIS! ^^^

 

[Missionary]

We all should have bought a few more "Traders" kept new in the box for these fine days we live in.

 

[KeithB]

I have a H & G ten cavity iron mold in #258, which is a 220gr semiwadcutter made much closer to Elmer’s “specs” than the Lyman 410459. I have a four cavity of that one also and it is fine just different. Talk about raining bullets! It’s the only mold I use a ladle with.

The H & G is probably going on the auction block.

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

Thats a nice bullet Keith!

CW

 

[KeithB]

Yes it’s the ,41 equivalent of the 429421

 

[david s]

When I first got a computer one of the first things I did was begin looking for a H&G 258 mould. Couldn't find an actual #258 mould but Google lead me here where I asked if a member could forward some samples to NOE for a clone. This was my introduction to the Art and Science of Bullet Casting site.

 

[Matt_G]

Miha makes a nice copy of the #258.
I just looked at one of the bullets and didn't get the mold out, but it looks to me like the top and bottom drive bands are the same width.
The middle looks a touch short in width to my eye...maybe .010 narrower.
Has the flat bottom grease groove Elmer was adamant about.
I know that my Model 57 likes it.

 

[fiver]

if your gonna have a thinner drive band that's the one to have.

 

[richhodg66]

Well,I scratched this .41 itch today, not the one I initially mentioned, this one is a Blackhawk with a 4 5/8" barrel and Hogue grips. Traded two that were gathering dust straight across.

Since I started getting ready to make a deal on one, I have obtained a Lyman two-cavity 41032 mold, a .412 sizer/luber die and the correct top punch and I have dies. I need to cast some bullets and get some brass.

I think I'm gonna like this one.

 

[richhodg66]

 

[JonB]

Nice

 

[Rushcreek]

Those Hogues or a Pachmayr grip sure help with the Honking loads.
I’ve owned both barrel lengths of .41 BH and I just seem to shoot the shorter one better.
We used 9 grs of Unique and 220 gr SWC for our daily loads on the farm. We saved the 170 and 210gr jhp “Honking loads” for West Texas.
The 170 gr were flat to 100 yards easy.

 

[fiver]

you might have to work your thumbs a bit to make 412 chamber.