cultivated meat

Rick said:
I take any such article like that with a grain of salt. Read one one time that said every person in the country eats 1 gallon of ice cream a month. I guess someone else is getting my share because I don't eat a gallon of ice cream in 2-3 years. Read one that stated how many acres of forest in S. America are being cut down every year. I thought that sounded like a lot, so I googled it. Turns out that every year forests are being cut down at a rate of 3x the area of the pacific ocean. I can't believe how much peanut butter I eat. Truth is if I ate it 3 times a day every day, I couldn't come close. If I ate the amount of candy they say I wouldn't fit thru a door. Almost all of those types of articles are written purely for the shock value. Most people never think it thru, just accept it.
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That is how the radical left and radical right look at things from the news. Not being political, just that everyone wants their opinion to come out of your mouth.
 
Thanks for the answer on what cultivated meat is.
As expected many points of interest have been brought up for further examination. Up until now I haven't eaten a BK special burger and I will probably never eat cultivated meat. But who knows what will happen in the future.
 
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JonB said:
one pound of soap per week per person?
It takes me about 6 months to use a pound of soap.
That's about 1/2 oz per week.
So, someone else has to make up the difference of my low usage :p
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The pound per week number came from a speaker from the L5 Society back in '76. "That pound a week" includes all uses: hygeine, dish soap, laundry detergent, the stuff floors are mopped with, industrial usage, etc. The number is based on annual consumption divided by the number of consumers.

I just checked and it looks like per-capita consumption has actually slightly increased. (What I haven't found are numbers on what percentage of that soap weight is water--are they including the water weight of liquid soaps, etc? What percentage of soap consumption is met by synthetics rather than traditional saponification of bio-based oils?)

The yield numbers for cropland, oil production, etc, were sourced from fairly-recent USDA numbers. I pulled the numbers up when considering how realistic some of the current promoters' projections are on crop yields in a "food vs feed vs industrial use" sense. (I've long believed that if we want to build a functional self-supporting space station or extra-planetary colony, the development team needs to include a bunch of retired farmers who have dealt with many of these problems before.)

The analogy of a double-crewed Gato-class sub is my own, based on per-capita cubic footage of some of the proposed transport vessels and colonies. Even as a child watching Star Trek re-runs, I had trouble accepting the size of the hallways and height of the ceilings on the Enterprise.
 
I always wondered about the size of the crew on the Enterprise, never saw many except in emergencies. Movie and TV crews don't like cramped spaces.
 
popper said:
I always wondered about the size of the crew on the Enterprise, never saw many except in emergencies. Movie and TV crews don't like cramped spaces.
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I always wondered where they got the extra guys in the red shirts. They seemed to be consumed a lot. Like the guy in the war movie that shows a picture of his sweetheart or the person in the monster movie who is not part of a couple.
 
1701D the next generation had crew and passengers of 1050 to 1300 . 1701 the original series had only 300? .
Everything was recycled except crewmen . Solves the plot issues anyway.
Enterprise a prequel series took on compatible foods and had a garden section but only a crew of 150 I think .

The key is that in space cold storage isn't a problem with space being some -220° F or 25° K .

Colonization raises huge issues like you have to arrive on site and make it to the 3rd breeding cycle with at least 26 breeding pairs that aren't related for at least 4 generations which would require roughly 80 of any given animal , even people.

Ship space isn't really a problem if it is assembled in orbit. The real trick is getting the assemblies up there . Auto pilot rockets ? Then it has to be atmosphere charged which could be done with meteor or comet harvesting , I guess . It wouldn't take many 200,000 cubic ft ships to have a significant impact on our own atmosphere.
 
Yeah, that was always the running joke, the shortest acting job is to be an anonymous Star Trek crewman in a red shirt. They were always the first to get eaten, vaporized or turned into salt blocks. Ah, good times...
 
KeithB said:
Yeah, that was always the running joke, the shortest acting job is to be an anonymous Star Trek crewman in a red shirt. They were always the first to get eaten, vaporized or turned into salt blocks. Ah, good times...
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The was a Si-Fi novel called Red Shirt that tells the back story of who that was happening. And the one officer who was always hurt/wounded, but never dies.
 
JustJim said:
The pound per week number came from a speaker from the L5 Society back in '76. "That pound a week" includes all uses: hygeine, dish soap, laundry detergent, the stuff floors are mopped with, industrial usage, etc. The number is based on annual consumption divided by the number of consumers.
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I understand,
I honestly calculated in my head all the different soaps I use at my house for all soap duties.
Although, I didn't include making SL-68B (Soap lube), LOL :p
 
richhodg66 said:
Exxept for Scotty, only guy in a red shirt who survived the whole series.
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And Ensign Uhura!

Decades back I read or watched a sci fi where the whole space station was a giant farm. Of course it was hydroponic because that was cutting edge at the time, but the tech they "invented" was pretty neat.
 
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Uhura wore a red mini dress rather than a shirt (believe me, I have been quite attentive of that over the years) maybe that made the difference?
 
Bret4207 said:
Decades back I read or watched a sci fi where the whole space station was a giant farm. Of course it was hydroponic because that was cutting edge at the time, but the tech they "invented" was pretty neat.
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Was it "Silent Running" with Bruce Durn?
 
come on you guys.
they put in on a new world every week...
grow food pffft.

now if you wanna get curious, worry about how those drifters got coffee, beans, biscuits, and their horses re-hydrated drifting across the high plains.
unless they were drifting across the pothole region along the Canadian border they had to be running a team of camels.
 
In the north of OR, WA and into BC, people think there is not much surface water because it never rains. There is but not like modern people think. The longest a Hudson Bay pack train had to go from the top of steamboat navigation north from the Columbia River was 20 miles and that was the first day. Then you could go NW, N or NE and never be more than 10 miles from water.

Nebraska and the Dakota's have water but not where you think. People traveled from water hole to water hole and not in a straight line. They followed the Indian trails and never had to go more than 10 miles for water.

The issue is that white people going West wanted to go straight lines, so stayed with the river valleys. They had water but no grazing. It was always about tradeoffs. Time, Distance, Water, Fodder.
 
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