Deteriorating powder safety
- Thread starter Chris
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Possibly. Or perhaps how it was stored. Let it spend one summer in a hot garage could well lead to it's demise. I've got Viht powder many years old and it's fine.
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JonB
Halcyon member
On Monday, a older member of my sportsmans club (and a good friend) just retired and is in the process of de-cluttering his gunroom. He stopped by and offered me some cheap rifle scopes, I told him, while I wasn't interested, I could help him sell some and I also gave him a few helpful hints, he decided to try an sell them on his own, on a facebook garage sale group...ANYWAY, he asked about selling his older pistol powders (circa 1980s), as he doesn't load for pistols like he use to. I told him, he should keep the powder, as now with more time on his hands, he may start loading more pistol ammo, He was sure he wasn't gonna go that direction. I told him I was interested in that powder, but my money is kinda tight these days, I'm hoping for a swap? ...to be continued.
fiver
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't be too sure that unique was bad.
I just emptied a red can of Herco similar to that.
I emptied it into an 8lb fiber drum I picked up [90$] and mixed them together then dumped them both into one of the newer plastic containers.
i'll be shooting that mix for a while yet.
I just emptied a red can of Herco similar to that.
I emptied it into an 8lb fiber drum I picked up [90$] and mixed them together then dumped them both into one of the newer plastic containers.
i'll be shooting that mix for a while yet.
JonB
Halcyon member
I looked into this pretty deeply a couple years ago. There is a UPS hub in my town. I found no legal way to ship canister powder ...sorta.
the story:
a couple years ago, a fella from west TX was looking for Norma R123 (I think that was the one?).
He was developing a wildcat pistol cartridge and calculated this powder would be the cat's meow for his cartridge. He posted on the other forum looking for some, as Norma wasn't making it anymore and apparently he contacted Norma and they'd make him a batch, but wasn't cost effective, unless he was sure it'd work, so he was looking for some to test with. I had 3 half pound cans that I wanted to sell him, as he was willing to pay a crazy stupid price. After lots of investigating, trying to find a licensed shipper...no dice. Most shippers who have a license, are licensed for a specific product...and are unwilling to deviate from their standard, which I surmised "could" be done, but would take a custom inspection from the Government. ANYWAY, I found a workaround, for this smaller amount of powder. I loaded it in 30-06 cases (about 250 of them), with a spent primer and a unlubed cast bullet on top, packed them into some commercial ammo boxes, and shipped them as "ORD-M" via UPS.
Longone
Active Member
Quite a while back I came across a Federal LR Match primer that did not contain any priming compound. It had all the other ingredients (anvil, foil paper ) but no compound. Federal asked me to send it back so they could examine it. Long story short, I spent 2 days trying to find a carrier to ship it, finally wound up sending it ORM-D as well through Fed-Ex with a detailed explanation of the contents.
Federal sent me 1K of Match primers for my effort.
Bottom line is this jug may get to see a lot of miles before it gets a new home.
Federal sent me 1K of Match primers for my effort.
Bottom line is this jug may get to see a lot of miles before it gets a new home.
fiver
Well-Known Member
the ammunition workaround is feasible.
I remember a story where a bunch of powder was shipped into a south American country by them dumping the contents of boxes of shot shell hulls.
re-filling the hulls with powder pushing the crimps closed again and putting them back in the boxes.
they were labeled as remanufactured blanks on the declaration page and a sticker on each box top was labeled the same way.
they passed through the strict custom inspection with no issues.
I remember a story where a bunch of powder was shipped into a south American country by them dumping the contents of boxes of shot shell hulls.
re-filling the hulls with powder pushing the crimps closed again and putting them back in the boxes.
they were labeled as remanufactured blanks on the declaration page and a sticker on each box top was labeled the same way.
they passed through the strict custom inspection with no issues.