picked one of these up today

Ian

Ian

Notorious member
One thing is for sure, those are all well-proven designs and it's tough to wear ANY of them out. The wannabe engineer in me likes the Mossberg design better than the tilting bolt design because it allows the use of aluminum receivers and the barrels are a helluva lot easier to swap. One of the stiff points in all my Model 12s is the bolt tilt part, particularly when UN-locking the action.
 
Pistolero

Pistolero

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No doubt. It would seem easier to cam down a smaller locking latch inside the bolt compared
to tilting the entire bolt. Lots more area to rub when tilting the bolt.

I think the biggest difference is the ability to get the number of machining hours down lower
and to successfully use stamped and formed parts which lowers the cost without compromising
functionality or durability.

Bill
 
fiver

fiver

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heck just let go of the fore-stock on a model 1300, it will eject the shell for you with anything 3 drams or higher.
they usually skimp on the finish on the newer guns and on the material thickness.
stuff they can get away with more and more as time goes by.
 
smokeywolf

smokeywolf

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In industry they refer to engineering something to minimize manufacturing costs as, "value engineering".

My father used to refer to that as "engineering it to sell, not to last".
 
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300BLK

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My first shotgun was a Winchester 1200 in 20ga. I sold it and bought an Antonio Zoli 12ga O/U and never regretted it. I have a couple of 870s, couple of Baikal SxS, and an old Marlin M43(?) pump, but don't often shoot a shotgun. If I were to buy another, and that is a stretch, it would be a Benelli M2 tactical.
 
fiver

fiver

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you might wanna look at the F/N Ben posted in the rifle section.
that is a quality tactical type shotgun.

the ejection like that is why they call them the fastest operating pumps on the market.
they assist you in the rearward motion if you allow them to.
the SIL still hasn't figured his out yet and insists on holding his pushed forward to keep it closed.
 
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