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Ian
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As blessings would have it, I inherited a splendid Shiloh 1874 in 45/90 WCF, worth more than any of our vehicles in today's money. Never could have afforded to buy one myself, but cherish having it very much. Rarely do I shoot it because of recoil, really need to sort out a bunny load for it, maybe paper-patch some 255-grain revolver bullets and try to burn up some of those 4-pounders of Clays that just sit around collecting dust.
All that said to compare to my small fleet of bargain-basement AR-variant rifles, all fitted with muzzle devices to share suppressors. I like my ARs too, a lot, and fire them often. HOWEVER, I feel that even Mr. Doug Turnbull himself can't make an AR-style rifle visually appealing, though he's done better than just about anyone who's tried. Some things are just pigs, lipstick or not.
All that said to compare to my small fleet of bargain-basement AR-variant rifles, all fitted with muzzle devices to share suppressors. I like my ARs too, a lot, and fire them often. HOWEVER, I feel that even Mr. Doug Turnbull himself can't make an AR-style rifle visually appealing, though he's done better than just about anyone who's tried. Some things are just pigs, lipstick or not.
RBHarter
West Central AR
More than once I've used a jack handle for a breaker bar .
I don't care for the overall lines of the MSR etc but I can think of more than a few of the sought after classics that are rather graceless . The 98 has an almost artistic flow and neither Winchester nor Remington managed to screw it up , even the 03' with the cocking knob isn't a loss . The Krag ......... It just reminds me of a shar-pi . It's not ugly , it is reasonably fluid ........it's just Glockish in a world of 1911s and High Powers ......
Who's idea was the Bisley grip ........
The 1860 Colts , Dragoon , Walker etc are just grace and beauty .....But I'll take a 58' or 75' Remington because I can't keep the caps out of the mechanics .
So it goes with the AR there is nothing redeeming about it's lines , ditching the handle and A2 gas block/sights help but it's just so industrial , function over form , with no practical way to soften the lines ....... Even the Biker Tat looking sculptured types are just a costumed feed and fire device . There's nothing sexy about a truck frame with a drive train setting on it . Add almost any 53-57 Ford , Chevy , or Dodge body to it (less Dodge) , even a Studebaker , and it's a thing of class and grace .
I don't care for the overall lines of the MSR etc but I can think of more than a few of the sought after classics that are rather graceless . The 98 has an almost artistic flow and neither Winchester nor Remington managed to screw it up , even the 03' with the cocking knob isn't a loss . The Krag ......... It just reminds me of a shar-pi . It's not ugly , it is reasonably fluid ........it's just Glockish in a world of 1911s and High Powers ......
Who's idea was the Bisley grip ........
The 1860 Colts , Dragoon , Walker etc are just grace and beauty .....But I'll take a 58' or 75' Remington because I can't keep the caps out of the mechanics .
So it goes with the AR there is nothing redeeming about it's lines , ditching the handle and A2 gas block/sights help but it's just so industrial , function over form , with no practical way to soften the lines ....... Even the Biker Tat looking sculptured types are just a costumed feed and fire device . There's nothing sexy about a truck frame with a drive train setting on it . Add almost any 53-57 Ford , Chevy , or Dodge body to it (less Dodge) , even a Studebaker , and it's a thing of class and grace .
fiver
Well-Known Member
the thing about AR's is their simplicity, they are kinda like the 1300's of the semi auto world.
I can [and have] take most any of the newer style Winchesters apart with a lollipop stick, clean them with my shirt tail and lube them with a wipe off a dipstick [any dipstick] and be up and running again in 2-3 minutes.
the AR's can pretty much be treated the same way, even under duress and be ready to go again.
anything past that and you instantly know they're junked up, and can simply be made useless by pulling the bolt or trigger group, and dropped where you stand.
I can [and have] take most any of the newer style Winchesters apart with a lollipop stick, clean them with my shirt tail and lube them with a wipe off a dipstick [any dipstick] and be up and running again in 2-3 minutes.
the AR's can pretty much be treated the same way, even under duress and be ready to go again.
anything past that and you instantly know they're junked up, and can simply be made useless by pulling the bolt or trigger group, and dropped where you stand.
Ian
Notorious member
Ever strip a Model 12 all the way down? Holy Sheet. One of the few I have to go pull a book off the shelf and read the directions. Just swapping barrels takes me an hour. If it takes that long to assemble an AR from unopened packages and stripped major parts (aside from the barrel extension, which ought to already be pinned on there and headspaced) then it must be the first time you done it.
Ian
Notorious member
This thread is like a Jeep, it just doesn't want to drift. Let me try again.
Continuing my wine experiments this year, I pulled small samples from the three batches of mustang grape and the test batch of prickly pear, pasteurized them to kill the active yeasties, and had a taste to see if I should pour them out now or go ahead and let them do their thing. All are passable, one of the Mustang is actually looking very good and the prickly pear is going to send me out for as many more as I can get from that spot when the rest fully ripen. Alcohol content has gotten just past the beer point in just ten days and the yeast is still going full-chooch. I consumed about a full glass between all the samples and had no signs of my usual alcohol allergy, so fingers crossed I can drink some myself and don't have to give all of it away.
So far I've learned that leaving the stems on puts too much tannic acid in the must, washing the grapes takes away the dusty flavor, diluting the juice by more than half turns the strong tartness into a more fruity flavor, and that for mustangs at least it would probably be better to press them and work with just the juice from the beginning rather than using the crushed pulp, seeds, stems, and all. The prickly pear is working out very well fermenting with its seeds, skins and pulp, so I'll let it go all the way to the end of fermentation and its first racking that way. I had to sieve the seeds, stems, and coarse pulp out of the third batch of Mustang today because it's already leaving that green banana feel on the tongue for 20 minutes.
Continuing my wine experiments this year, I pulled small samples from the three batches of mustang grape and the test batch of prickly pear, pasteurized them to kill the active yeasties, and had a taste to see if I should pour them out now or go ahead and let them do their thing. All are passable, one of the Mustang is actually looking very good and the prickly pear is going to send me out for as many more as I can get from that spot when the rest fully ripen. Alcohol content has gotten just past the beer point in just ten days and the yeast is still going full-chooch. I consumed about a full glass between all the samples and had no signs of my usual alcohol allergy, so fingers crossed I can drink some myself and don't have to give all of it away.
So far I've learned that leaving the stems on puts too much tannic acid in the must, washing the grapes takes away the dusty flavor, diluting the juice by more than half turns the strong tartness into a more fruity flavor, and that for mustangs at least it would probably be better to press them and work with just the juice from the beginning rather than using the crushed pulp, seeds, stems, and all. The prickly pear is working out very well fermenting with its seeds, skins and pulp, so I'll let it go all the way to the end of fermentation and its first racking that way. I had to sieve the seeds, stems, and coarse pulp out of the third batch of Mustang today because it's already leaving that green banana feel on the tongue for 20 minutes.
462
California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
None of that stuff here.
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My AWD 01 Explorer doesn't drift at all. It was designed for the soccer Mom types and hooks up and stays hooked no matter what I do. I had a guy with a 4WD Chevy pickup want to race me in the snow. All he did was spin tires while I drove away from him at a pretty good clip.
My '95 Bronco is a different story entirely. It will drift.
My '95 Bronco is a different story entirely. It will drift.