TITEGROUP

[shootnlead]

I was at Academy today and they had a good supply of TG at a pretty good price. So, naturally, some made it's way to my house. Have any of you ever used it for .44 Special...just wondering if it will work similar to 231/HP38...as I load as much Special ammo as about anything that I load. For my stouter loads, I use Unique and Power Pistol...but for all of the rest of it, 231 and HP38 gets the nod...and I will try TG if it will work.

 

[Brad]

I have been using it in 44 special for the past year. I use 4.5 gr under an NOE HG 503 clone which runs 265 gr. It runs just over 750 fps and is plenty accurate for my needs.
I have fired over 500 rounds with that load and will be sticking with it for the time being.

 

[Rick]

I don't remember the load off hand but Tite Group is what I used in the 44 spl S&W before I sold it to Brad.

 

[shootnlead]

I looked at the burn rate...looks like it is very near Bullseye...and I have used BE to good effect, in the past. I will be loading a few, maybe tomorrow, to see how one of the guns likes it...but I will probably load light bullets for the test as that is what I mostly plink with.

 

[fiver]

4.1grs under a 240 is nice.
I have shot that same load under a 200gr rnfp and it is quite accurate.
I run 12 off in the lever gun in like 3 seconds and held a 2" group at 35yds just to show the SIL his AR wasn't so great.

 

[shootnlead]

4.1grs under a 240 is nice.
I have shot that same load under a 200gr rnfp and it is quite accurate.

That is what I will use...I was wondering if it would work well with the 200's...as I shoot a lot of them. That will put 1lb of TG making a PILE of rounds...now, that is what I like...since the BE is kind of low and I can save it and the HP38.

 

[Ian]

Titegroup is much less position sensitive in large cases than most other pistol powders. It is also very clean and will amaze you with single-digit ES numbers on the chronograph. As a result, it tends to make light loads which group very well. In my opinion it makes every powder made by Alliant or Hodgdon that burns faster than Unique or Universal completely obsolete for handgun or rifle purposes.

On the downside, it will soften powder coating and it will melt polycarbonate powder hoppers in a matter of hours, so don't leave it in a measure any longer than absolutely necessary. Also, don't crowd it for room or maximum loads because it makes very scary pressures very suddenly at a certain point in a load workup where the free space starts to get limited or pressures start to get high.

 

[shootnlead]

Titegroup is much less position sensitive in large cases than most other pistol powders. It is also very clean and will amaze you with single-digit ES numbers on the chronograph. As a result, it tends to make light loads which group very well. In my opinion it makes every powder made by Alliant or Hodgdon that burns faster than Unique or Universal completely obsolete for handgun or rifle purposes.

On the downside, it will soften powder coating and it will melt polycarbonate powder hoppers in a matter of hours, so don't leave it in a measure any longer than absolutely necessary. Also, don't crowd it for room or maximum loads because it makes very scary pressures very suddenly at a certain point in a load workup where the free space starts to get limited or pressures start to get high.

Thanks for that info, Ian...good to know.

 

[Ian]

I used to swear by Bullseye, 231, Unique, 2400, and WW748. Now all I restock is Titegroup, Universal, True Blue, and Reloder 7 because they have given me consistently better results than any other powders in that spectrum.

For mousphardt cast bullet loads in relatively big cartridges like .308 Winchester or even .223, I've found that Titegroup has no equal.

 

[Chris]

Isn't it also a "bulky" powder like 4759?

 

[Brad]

No, it is a fine ball powder. Meters really well too

 

[Ian]

Flattened ball, and very dense.

 

[Chris]

is it relatively position insensitive?

 

[fiver]

yep..
it resembles and meters like 231.
but burns closer to the way clay's does.

it's a different animal for sure but for light loads in the bigger cases it's pretty sweet.
6 grs in the 45 colt makes regular 14-K pressure but feels like a pop gun.
the first shot from the holster is in the group with the others.
the same 4.1 grs in the 41 mag works pretty well under soft boolits that should have gas checks on them.
[the rabbit population in SW Wyoming has been reduced by that load by some significant amounts]
I like it in most everything but the 9mm and smaller stuff, if it's kept on the paper punching levels.

 

[freebullet]

All I know is I get hives if I have less than a full 8 pounder of the stuff.

 

[Chris]

Useful in moderate vel. .44 mag loads?

 

[Will]

Some of the best groups I ever shot out of my 629 44 mag were 200gr bullets loaded with titegroup.

I use lots of it. It's really hard to beat for most of my handgun needs. It will actually put up some pretty good velocity numbers in magnum revolver cartridges.

I load almost all my 38 specials with it. I have not found it to be position sensitive at all.

I'm pretty sure handloader did a position sensitivity test about 5 or 6 years with the 45 acp. Titegroup was the top performer.

 

[Sendaro]

The thing that I like about Titegroup is it meters well. It also burns cleaner than some other fast burning pistol powders.

Sendaro

 

[Ian]

TG is great for .45 ACP until you get up past 200 grains or so, then it gets snappy. It's still right there with Bullseye as the quietest powder with a suppressor, but fouls the can and pistol a LOT less.

 

[shootnlead]

Apparently, I am very late to the party with TG...thought about trying it for a while, just never got around to doing it. Didn't get to give it a go, today...but maybe tomorrow. And, I get the feeling that I should have bought more. My daughter is in college up there close to Academy...probably tell her to go by and get the rest that they have on the shelf, if any is left.