so waht ya doin today?

Rick

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Broke down today and traded in the ATV I bought a year ago on a bigger badder better ATV. Stayed with the same Tracker brand but moved up to the 570 model. Twice the size of the engine, shift to 4wd on the fly & more. Had absolutely no need of it but just like guns need and want are two very different things.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
My post-Operation Fence Replacement carpentry projects are done for a while. That being the case, today was the first earnest day of replacing pavers. Got enough re-layed that my knees are objecting none too quietly. The weather co-operated with a high of 60, and an early overcast was replaced by much sun. Didn't even work up a sweat!
 

JWFilips

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Headed to My Nice's home for a Polish Potato Pancake feast ( Good Friday) !
It has been a long time ( over a year) since I have seen my immediate family ...even though we only live a few mile away! Covid here has been pretty bad so since the immediate family is older than Me and My wife ..we figured once we all get our shots we would be in compliance with the CDC ...So we all get together and tonight was the night! The last time we shared a meal together was the day before our Governor shut the state down one year ago!
So 1 year and a few weeks later ...since we are all vaccinated; we got to sit down again! Very nice to catch up with my sister-in-laws and my oldest brother.
It is only he and I that are left! He is the oldest brother and I am the youngest brother of a family; that was 9 children!
Well I'm sure 12 potato pancakes with sour cream ruined my diet for the day but it is sure worth it!

Got to hug and kiss my family again!
My wife took a photo of my only living brother ( left) and I. My brother Edward ( Edge) is 87 and I'm there too, I will be 68 in May !
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Matt_G

Curmudgeon in training
I am going to start blending all my COWW today. (Close to 2 tons)
I have no idea what its composition really is.
I want to get it all homogeneous and have a couple of samples tested it so I know what is in it.

I acquired all this WW over the course of 10 or 12 years I guess.
Started around ‘97 or ‘98 I think.
I would process a bucket here, a half bucket there, so on and so forth.
I didn’t keep the batches separate and it is all in one big pile.
Sb content is all over the place judging by the varying hardness I see.
Just no way to get any consistency with my lead in this state.

So I got a big Gas One single burner stove and a huge cast iron pot.
This pot is 14.5 inches diameter at the bottom and 16.5 at the top.
6.5 inches deep.
Using 15.25 for an average diameter and going to within an inch of the top, I should be able to do 400 lbs. at a time, provided my math is correct.
That is also assuming this rig can handle the weight.
I will be going slow and easy and keeping a very close eye on things for that reason.

It sucks that I will have to melt all of this twice to accomplish my goal but it is my own dang fault.
I didn’t know what I didn’t know…
At least there are two other small benefits to this.
This lead is going to be clean this time around.
I did a piss poor job of that when I smelted this stuff.
Second, I have nice angle iron ingot moulds now.
I’m guessing they will go 2.5 to 3 pounds and they are going to stack real nice.
Currently everything is in one pound ingots from Lyman and RCBS moulds.
 

Rick

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That's what I did except I only had 800 pounds cast into 5 pound ingots. My cast iron pot would hold 80 pounds when not filled too full to flux. I blended all of the ingots together repeatedly and re-cast into 5 pound ingots until I had the most uniform 800 pounds I could get. Was quite the PITA while doing it but since then well worth it.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
:headscratch: I do my mixing in my sand berm. Over the years, recovered alloy stays pretty constant at 14-15 BHN. Even when shooting copious amounts of hard commercial cast and a lot of 3-1 alloy (pure-lino) made from corresponding Roto-Metals ingots. The commercial cast was an assortment of newer powder coated and thirty year old Magnus 44 caliber bullets, I had laying around for that many years.
 

L Ross

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Hand lining, for walleye was popular on the Detroit River. However, you'd be liable to catch anything. Including, smallmouth and sheepshead.
Yup, the Detroit river is supposed to be where hand lining, in its current, (no pun intended), iteration was developed and perfected. There are tons of equipment available on the used market in the Detroit area and so far none of those old farts are wiling to ship anything. The biggest issue is a dearth of good sinker moulds. It would be nice to have sinkers starting at 1 lb. and going to 2 lb. in 4 oz. increments, properly shaped and the mould set up to allow the bottom walking wire to extend out of the bottom of the mould.

I have been unwilling to go hand lining the past three Springs due to excessively high water on the Mississippi River. We joke about picnic table, out houses, and dead cattle floating in the current, but it's not far from true. The biggest dangers are submerged floating trees and logs that get washed out of the flood plain and glide quietly down the river where boaters hit them with disastrous results. More common and less dangerous, but completely disruptive to trolling is the tremendous amount of cat tails, reed canary grass, brush, and other small debris constantly fouling your lines. This Spring looks suitable and I am anxious to get out.

Today is starting out at 20 degrees but is supposed to hit 58 this afternoon, but once again, winds out of the south 15-25 with gusts to 40 mph. Boat control would be nearly impossible for precision trolling.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
IIRC, hand lining was also called sash-weighing..............not sure of the spelling but that's the way it's pronounced. I learned it from the old guy that ran the local pool hall. Use to go out on the river, with Doc when he could get on of his brothers to mind the hall.
 

L Ross

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Huh, yesterday. Well Sue said last night when we went to bed, "Do you hurt everywhere but your hair and finger nails?" When I really thought about it, it was only my hair. I had a hole in my glove and that finger tip and nail were sore, and I had a toe nail that was complaining where I dropped chunks of fire wood off the splitter on my right foot.

Sue has several wild flower beds in addition to our two parcels of prairie, and her flower beds require extensive cleaning in Spring. So she is on her hands and knees for hours and so far has hauled 6 Ranger loads of debris off to a dumping spot we have where it can break down. One of her wild areas was getting over run with black raspberry canes. It is also full of last years Phlox stems. There was an old fence running through it so yesterday I pulled up and coiled the barbed wire, and took my Bachtold Fence Row King to whack everything taller than 4". The patch was about 35'x90'. Trouble is everything here is on a side hill. A friend who has borrowed the Bachtold calls it my "Man Killer."

Then I took the forks off the Kubota and put the bucket on. Hauled two bucketfuls of gravel to level the pad where I am going to put the two shooting benches now that the syrup arch is put away. Then I raked that out level, took the bucket off, put the forks back on and hauled the benches out of the shooting shack and reinstalled them on the pad under their new roof. That made room in the shack to get the Wisdom Oak #19 wood stove and accessories out of the back of my truck.

Then we unloaded and stacked one trailer load of firewood, split and filled the trailer again, unloaded and stacked that load, and refilled the trailer again. By that point Sue was out of steam so we will unload and stack that another day. I told her to go grab a hot shower and I'd be in shortly.

Well, not really. I store my Grumman Sport Boat upside down on the trailer and chain it down for Winter storage. I unloaded it, flipped it over and reloaded it on the trailer. Then I went in the shed and carried a 6 hp Mercury outboard motor out and secured it on the transom. Then I got a 30 gallon plastic barrel and placed it under the outboard and raised it up with a milk crate and filled the barrel with water. I got the motor running to my great satisfaction.

I was looking for a place to park the boat and motor where it would be less obvious when we are not here and since there is a vacancy under a leanto I opted for that. That accomplished I went to put the Ranger away, and......spotted the rhubarb sticking its red and green noses up among last year's dead plants. Pulled all of those, and they must be the most brittle plant detritus known. Might make good fire tinder. Pulled that all up and hauled it to the brush pile. Then I finally called it a day. Ah retirement, the leisure, the relaxation, the peace and quiet, you gotta love it.
 
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L Ross

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IIRC, hand lining was also called sash-weighing..............not sure of the spelling but that's the way it's pronounced. I learned it from the old guy that ran the local pool hall. Use to go out on the river, with Doc when he could get on of his brothers to mind the hall.
If I recall correctly from the internet articles I read a few years ago when I was getting started. Detroit River anglers used copper telephone wire for the main line and sash weights as sinkers. The article said you could tell an old hand liner by his missing fingers as they used to inter lace the wire through their fingers. The Detroit River is notoriously snag filled and thus was pretty dangerous. The anglers developed self retracting spring loaded reels using old Victrola parts, and all of our new modern equipment stems from those early angling pioneers.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Recyclers back then..................

Doc had modern equipment. Sixteen foot Starcraft aluminum boat with a homemade wooden storage cabin/locker in the bow. Eighteen or twenty HP Johnson outboard. Retractable seat mounted reels and wire line. Not copper. Use to run three leads of different lengths, at different depths.
 

Rick H

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Sinker molds? Try a board with a hole that is a tight fit for a coat hanger wire, counterbored to accept a piece of conduit. Fill the conduit with lead, leaving 4-6" of coat hanger protruding out the bottom and enough to bend an eye on the top side. Make them as long or short as you want. The coat hanger spike out the bottom helps some with preventing snags.
I mostly jig, or troll with planer boards these days, but made up a bunch of handlining sinkers back in the day.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
6.5 Creedmore? Another 6.5 Swede short, whoopie! I'll pass. Answers in search of questions, it never ends.

Yesterday was a darn good day to be behind a windbreak of some sort. I hid int he shop most of the day. I did manage drag out the $5.00 Coleman generator and get it into the back of an old manure spreader we use for fencing and such. Got it running good and strapped down. I'll be starting fencing this week I hope, have a zillion 1 1/2" holes to drill in solid rock. It's "soft" rock (The Carpenters?) but it's still rock. Not much fun but at least when you drop a post in you can see you did something.

Did some fixing/cleaning on a gas tank on one of my backhoes. The old sediment bowl assy was mangled pretty good. Did you know they about $35.00 for a $7.00 assy these days? GULP!!!! Gotta have it. Hope to get that one working pretty quick. I know I'll be replacing 50 year old hydraulic hoses, but it's a lot faster than a shovel.

Today looks promising. Hope to get to roofing.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
I am going to start blending all my COWW today. (Close to 2 tons)
>>>SNIP>>>
Second, I have nice angle iron ingot moulds now.
I’m guessing they will go 2.5 to 3 pounds and they are going to stack real nice.
In my first couple years of casting, I used the Lee ingot mold as well as the Groupbuy CB mold (14 oz ingot).
They stacked ok, I guess, but then I bought/traded for ingots cast by a local Preacher who cast them in muffin tins and condiment cups (a little smaller than a muffin tin)...the alloy was great, but what a pain to stack/store. To this day, when someone suggests to a newbie, to just use muffin tins for an ingot mold, I cringe...I see it all the time on the casting groups on the book of faces.

About 6 years ago, a CB member made some ingot molds in a home "DIY" foundry (aluminum sand casting), I helped him with the size design, to fit nicely stacked in a USPS small flat rate box, and they stack great for storage. They were 2.25 lb ingots of COWW and a great size for a Lee melter. Now there is a CB vendor selling die cast ingot molds (made in China) using nearly the same design.
...But ingot molds made from angle iron should stack great too.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Old metal 3# coffee cans for storing my corncob ingots and RCBS ingots. Single row standing for the corncobs, double row for the RCBS ingots. I don't keep them in that form that long, anyways. Halfway done converting the 40+ ingots, I smelted a couple of weeks ago, into projectiles. Viscous circle.
 

fiver

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the triangle shape ingots are the only way to go.
they pack in like metering H-110 through a powder dump, and you can get them turned so the walls are flat too.

Matt.
just keep on funneling the ingots through the pot, a little in.... a little out,,, throw a couple from the already done pile back in every so often.
I used 2 pots when I re-done all mine.
I worked it all from one pot to the other and re-run about 1/3rd of the stuff back through the first pot as I went.
it was all jumbled up as I was digging it out, and I think I got it about as good as possible that way.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
Gotta guard the chickens again ..... Rough job holding down that chair but somebody has to do it .

Closed this morning on 500 45AR brass for $40 and freight .

Local church veggie guy came by this morning with veggie flat heaping in cherry and Roma tomatoes , bell peppers , broccoli , cabbage , and turnips .

Worked an extra Thursday and Friday till midnight got up at 530 ran Ms for a C19 test for her Tuesday afternoon elbow nerve tunnel relief cut and dig .

It's not a 6.5 Swedemoor it's a 6.5 Jap anese +P .
 

Mitty38

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Found out everyone has there own idea of storage. They just do not work well when you mix them.
I have come to the conclusion that 2 sizes work best for me, the "bed rail" ingots Fiver sent, and the 1 lb lee work the best system for me.
Fivers "bed rail" ingots stack perfect and are great for long term storage of base alloys. Working on making a mould to immigrate these.
Then..
I get these cardboard metal sample shipping boxes from the trash at work that 25 lb of Lees fit in perfectly.
Makes inventory and casting a snap. Just grab the labeled box with what I need and put it on the stand. When I need to count inventory it's 25,50,75,100.
 
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Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
It's not a 6.5 Swedemoor it's a 6.5 Jap anese +P .
Mines a 6.5 Roberts. A prit-near 6.5 Swede clone if there ever was one. Mine came Roberters-ized or I might have stuck with the Jap chamber. I just don't get the "latest/greatest" cartridge stuff I guess. 6.5 Creedmore, 350 Legend, anything in a 300 Mag, it's already out there. But that doesn't sell guns I guess.