Some old Photos for your enjoyment

JWFilips

JWFilips

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It Is True ! History repeats it's Self! From Shorpy.com:

January 1942. Kerch Peninsula, Ukraine. "Parents find the body of their murdered son in Kerch. Photograph shows mother with arms outstretched, leaning back against husband while dead bodies lie at their feet." U.S. Office for Emergency Management photoprint -- British Official Photo (German War Crimes -- Hitler -- World War II).

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glassparman

glassparman

"OK, OK, I'm going as fast as I don't want to go!"
Sadly, smoking and drinking beer killed my father at age 57. That was back in '91 but he knew it and still did it.
 
JWFilips

JWFilips

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Similar to my Dad! But he had black lung from the coal mines & still smoked until a few years before he was gone!
Funny Though; he had a botched Melanoma removal in the early 1970's that actually killed him! Spread to every part of his body. Doctors knew nothing about cancer back then!
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
All 3 grandfather's smoked from 14 until their last week or so 76,78,&84 . One of a specific cancer , one of probably asbestos with nonspecific cancers all over , the last just kind of gave up and fell completely apart about 6 days before he passed ruled old age . The one in the middle drank a 6-12 pack a day from sometime in early 1941 until June-ish of 1982 . Passing in 92' about a week before his 75th birthday.
Not to promote smoking, drinking, and similar vices , but there are I believe other contributors to one collecting cancer .
 
Mitty38

Mitty38

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Wow I just noticed the signature on the bottom W.C.Volia.
That's sign is outside the town that was taken over and ran by the Original Flat Earth Church. Zion, Illinois.
A lot of interesting history behind that pic. I could get into a whole discussion around that fellow, the company he worked for and the Company owned Church. If we were not restricted on Religious talk.
Some very intriguing History around that.
I suggest it would make for an interesting Google, or Wikipedia Read. And Leave it at that before I
offend any flat earthers, or get barked at for Religious Conversations.
 
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richhodg66

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That sign says a lot of things we know to be true today. Seems we are always looking back in history seeing harmful things people used to do out of ignorance of how bad it was, smoking is one example. I wonder how much the medical community knew and understood in 1915 about all the bad things it can cause.

Tobacco is one of those things Im real glad I never started. Unfortunately, both my sons picked it somewhere, not sure how, niether me or my wife ever did. But they are both grown men, so it's their lives I suppose.

Never really drank much either, but always enjoyed a good beer. I've pretty much given that up now and haven't had one in a year or so. I'm far from being a health nut and hope I don't come across as some puritan type, but substance abuse has ben the downfall of so many.
 
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Rick

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richhodg66 said:
That sign says a lot of things we know to be true today. Seems we are always looking back in history seeing harmful things people used to do out of ignorance of how bad it was, smoking is one example. I wonder how much the medical community knew and understood in 1915 about all the bad things it can cause.

Tobacco is one of those things Im real glad I never started. Unfortunately, both my sons picked it somewhere, not sure how, niether me or my wife ever did. But they are both grown men, so it's their lives I suppose.

Never really drank much either, but always enjoyed a good beer. I've pretty much given that up now and haven't had one in a year or so. I'm far from being a health nut and hope I don't come across as some puritan type, but substance abuse has ben the downfall of so many.
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In 1915? In the early 50's a doctor told my mother to start smoking. :eek:
 
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richhodg66

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There are times still that I think the medical community may be iur own worst enemy. Not smoking so much, but especially for kids, the re simply has to be something wrong with every single one of them that requires some kind of prescription fot ADHD, anxiety, asthma, etc. It really does seem like the mission is to sell pharmaceuticals rather than actually treat illness anymore.
 
KeithB

KeithB

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I can see the progress in medical treatment for diabetes in the last 40 years and basically medicine in general. Computers have helped a lot when incorporated into scanners and other non-invasive imaging and monitoring systems. The first glucose tester I bought cost $750 and took 30 seconds to generate a reading. It had no memory. Now I use a glucose monitor that gives real time readings to a remote device and costs $75 for two 2 week sensors. It performs calculations, stores data, and can transmit it as needed. I don't have an insulin pump but several of my friends do and for them they work well.

The environment we live in has changed and our physiology is still adapting to it. If you were the parent of a kid with asthma you'd be welcoming every advance made in that area. Ditto to allergies caused by various foods and other chemicals. Same with parents who have kids with ADHD. Hopefully we are emerging from the era where we just beat on our kids when they didn't pay attention.

Over diagnosed? Maybe, but it beats ignoring obvious problems.

Progress isn't always uniform and often happens at a rate faster than we can process, both as individuals and as a society. But I'm alive because of progress in medicine and I'll take facts over anecdotal old wives tales any day.
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
But you have to wonder- Why do we have kids/people with food allergies no one had heard of 50 years ago? Peanut allergies? Gluten? Why are so many more kids showing up under the "autistic label"? Part of it is because "autism" covers a lot more symptoms today than it did even 10 years ago. It's actually a near "catch all" diagnosis in some respects. But why are so many people, especially kids allergic to so much? My wife and I talk about this often and we put it down to all those "safe as can be" preservatives, additives, colorings, etc that is put in our over processed food. I'm no saint, I eat the same crap as the rest of the nation, but I think we've created the cess pool of problems we see around us today, and between the food linked items and vaccinations, it's a real crap shoot. Add in mom and dads drug use back in their "wild days" and is it any wonder we are where we are?
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
Yet in spite of all of the advances it's easier to treat the symptoms than fix the problem.

I drove a truck through a set and a half of tires had 2 replacement tires and 2 flats repaired on one wheel . It took 7 tires to get through the whole set . That wheel I had a slow leak from about 6-7 months before I bought the new set of tires . The new tires seemed to "fix" the leak for about 6-7 months but it started leaking again so I Slimed it . Winter came and went and it started leaking again . I assumed it was a wheel or bead leak caused by a casting void . When the new tires went on the valve stem leaked like a sieve . The stem was replaced 2 yr ago hasn't lost over 3# in 6 months and that most likely to seasonal temperature shifts .

See if I'd known the last 4 professionals with tech certs didn't replace the stem with the new set of tires 5 yr ago I could have fixed the leaker and maybe even saved a tire . I counted on the techs to do their job and that they had checked the symptoms and fixed it while they had the tire off 4 times but they only they only fixed the obvious problem not the root cause which I repaired with the most recent set of new tires . Of course if it had been a casting void in the alloy wheels I'd still have a leak .

Medicine is the same way only there's lawyers involved . Once in a while you find one that actually wants to fix the problem or at least get to the source the other 987 just want to keep airing up the tire and pouring fix a flat and slime in it .
 
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