L Ross
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Yeah, I looked. For some unfathomable reason they only make the .308 with a 20" barrel.
What Did You Shoot Today?
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dannyd
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Picked up my 6th GP100 last Saturday already shot 200 rounds threw it; the trigger is good for newer model. Go from 1988 to 2020 now: Blue 6 inch between the other two 6 inch on the right. It had the short rail already on it, so I think that's why I got it so cheap. Between all six better than 100,000 rounds.
fiver
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they do some kind of weird stuff at Bergara.
they do make a 25-06 but it's only in their super duper stupid hunting/target rig.
i actually thought about buying one of them and trying to get a B-14 hunting stock [or just find a take-off rem 700 stock] and marrying the two.
why they only do a 20" 308 is kind of beyond me too, a 22" wouldn't be any more burden than their 24" barreled long actions which balance rather nicely depending on the scope etc.
they do make a 25-06 but it's only in their super duper stupid hunting/target rig.
i actually thought about buying one of them and trying to get a B-14 hunting stock [or just find a take-off rem 700 stock] and marrying the two.
why they only do a 20" 308 is kind of beyond me too, a 22" wouldn't be any more burden than their 24" barreled long actions which balance rather nicely depending on the scope etc.
Ian
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Burned up 3/4 pound of ho-made 2F in the flint fowler today, then grabbed a pound of Graf's FFg and burned up half of it before I ran out of .613" balls. The USPS can't seem to get the .575" Lee RB mould I ordered ten days ago from the warehouse 60 miles away to my mailbox so I kept shooting bare balls with a wet paper wad on top. Groups averaged 8" at 50 yards, falling apart after 6-8 shots due to fouling. 110 grains seems to be the happy spot. I hope patched round balls shoot better or I'm going to need a bigger steel target at 50 yards! Offhand with a glitchy lock I was about 2/5 on my 6x12" pipe gong.
Photos of the gun after getting it really dirty:
Photos of the gun after getting it really dirty:
Ian
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Loaded traditionally with a bare ball, I'd say that's about right.
I swapped into a 2" S&W round-butt 10-7 yesterday, so I had to take it out today. No sign of gas cutting on the topstrap, so I'm guessing it saw little use. When I checked it over, I could barely get a .003" feeler gauge between the barrel and cylinder, so I had high hopes.
I ran a couple boxes of handloads (FBI load-equivalents) through it today, plus trying out one cylinder of Buffalo Bore's similar heavy 38 Special +P. The handloads did OK, but I think I'll probably not be shooting more of those Buffalo Bore loads through this gun (they are a nice load in 357 snubbies, but I don't want to abuse the Smith).
I ran a couple boxes of handloads (FBI load-equivalents) through it today, plus trying out one cylinder of Buffalo Bore's similar heavy 38 Special +P. The handloads did OK, but I think I'll probably not be shooting more of those Buffalo Bore loads through this gun (they are a nice load in 357 snubbies, but I don't want to abuse the Smith).
Pressman
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I took a pair of Savage Model15's, old and newer to th range yesterday. The old one absolutely refused to extract. The newer one, post '68, had some extraction issues but it settled down allowing for one hole groups at 50 ft indoors. It has a terrible trigger, the older rifle has a very decent trigger. That makes 4 22's that need more work. I'm on a role.
Petrol & Powder
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Had a little time (not a lot), the weather was great; decided to play with the 32 caliber pistols and revolver.
They sure are fun!
When everything is dialed in nicely it just brings a smile to your face.
They sure are fun!
When everything is dialed in nicely it just brings a smile to your face.
Ian
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Spent most of the day trying to get my flintlock fowler to put balls in the same corner of the county, not a lot of luck really after expending just over a pound of powder and somewhere between 80-100 balls.
.575" balls with ticking patches blow the neatest 60-caliber hole through the patch. .034" denim twill solved that but made the same 8-10" groups wuth multiple powder charge levels. Tried paper cartridges again and they group a frustrating 2-3 right on the bull nearly touching and start flinging them wild. The amount of carbon that comes out of the barrel after five would fill a large soup spoon. I may try them again with commercial 2F because they did ok the other day as long as I put them ball down and put a big squirt on moose milk on top of the wadded paper before ramming them home. Tried some other combinations and came up with the .600 balls patched with .018" ticking and worked the charge down until the patches quit getting little holes burned in them. That seemed to do the trick, got 5 into 4" about 10" low at 50 but finally the windage is on center, put up a fresh target and that turned into 6.5" scattered 2-3" left and about the same elevation, seems very sensitive to hold and compression. I'm thinking if it wants to shoot with that little powder I'll try 3F, and if it's that sensitive to bore condition I'll switch to a wax/tallow patch lube next time and see what happens.
.575" balls with ticking patches blow the neatest 60-caliber hole through the patch. .034" denim twill solved that but made the same 8-10" groups wuth multiple powder charge levels. Tried paper cartridges again and they group a frustrating 2-3 right on the bull nearly touching and start flinging them wild. The amount of carbon that comes out of the barrel after five would fill a large soup spoon. I may try them again with commercial 2F because they did ok the other day as long as I put them ball down and put a big squirt on moose milk on top of the wadded paper before ramming them home. Tried some other combinations and came up with the .600 balls patched with .018" ticking and worked the charge down until the patches quit getting little holes burned in them. That seemed to do the trick, got 5 into 4" about 10" low at 50 but finally the windage is on center, put up a fresh target and that turned into 6.5" scattered 2-3" left and about the same elevation, seems very sensitive to hold and compression. I'm thinking if it wants to shoot with that little powder I'll try 3F, and if it's that sensitive to bore condition I'll switch to a wax/tallow patch lube next time and see what happens.
richhodg66
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All the talk about the Henry Homesteader got me wanting to get out the Hi Point 9mm Carbine I hadn't done much with. I put 110 rounds of various cast bullet loads through it at 50 yards. It won't win any beauty contests or bench rest matches, but it's a pretty good gun for what it is.
Pressman
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Big day today, for the first time in my life I bought a brand new 22 rifle. It's a Savage Mk 1 single shot. Wood stock has a small chip at the toe where a store customer dropped it. I got it at a bargain price. I installed a Vortex scope and took it along to the Old Curmudgeon's shoot. Along with it I took a Gambles store marked Colteer that I had mounted another Vortex scope using a gadget I found on eBay. This little device fits inside a Weaver type ring and allows it to clamp to rim fire grooved receivers.
Both rifles shot well with Norma Automatch, the Colteer better than expected.
The Vortex scope have been around for a couple of years as I could never find a rifle that they really worked with. That problem is solved.
It was a good day.
Both rifles shot well with Norma Automatch, the Colteer better than expected.
The Vortex scope have been around for a couple of years as I could never find a rifle that they really worked with. That problem is solved.
It was a good day.
Wiresguy
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I took my old (October 2003) Freedom Arms 97 in .32 H&R to the range today. Shot targets and chronographed loads. The three bullets I am working with are Accurate 31-100F, 31-100R, and 31-120S2. The goal is an accurate load in the 800 to 900 fps range. Working with W231 and Unique but tried some 2400 loads which were accurate but too much velocity. This gun shoots most everything I have put through it well. I'm just having fun looking for that "perfect" load.
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
That would be my perfect pistol, if I could ever find and afford one. Especially with a duel 32 WCF cylinder!!!!
Wiresguy
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Ric, I stumbled across this gun a few months ago. I wasn’t actively looking for a FA in 32 H&R, but I’m very happy I found it.
It came out of an estate and originally shipped with the 32-20 cylinder, but unfortunately that cylinder did not accompany the gun. If the 32-20 cylinder had been included, then I would have had to purchase a 32-20 lever gun
Since my purchase, I have been digging around online and learning more about them. I think there were only 300 to 400 of the FA97’s produced in 32 H&R before they switched over to the 327 as the standard chambering, with the 32 H&R cylinder (and 32-20) being an extra cost option.
Recently a lady at Freedom Arms told me that the 32’s were not big sellers and the lead time right now is about 20 months. I’m fortunate to have this one and enjoying it now.
Pressman
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Some good outdoor range time yesterday to zero the Savage Mk1 and 257 Roberts. 25 yards only as the Rob was not hitting the paper at that distance. It has vintage Redfield one piece base and rings so getting it one paper involved sighting down the bore and moving the scope laterally to center on the target then tighten the rear rings. Followed by cranking on the elevation dial to bring the crosshais up to center.
For those not familier with these rings, the cap screws enter from the bottom to give a clen apperance. That's OK, but getting access to the screws is nearly impossible wityh the scope mounted to the base.
focus
The Mk 1 shot OK with Norma Automatch. More ammo testing is needed. The Vortex scope has 100 yard parallax adjustment that does not aid in precision shooting at 25 yards.
For those not familier with these rings, the cap screws enter from the bottom to give a clen apperance. That's OK, but getting access to the screws is nearly impossible wityh the scope mounted to the base.
focus
The Mk 1 shot OK with Norma Automatch. More ammo testing is needed. The Vortex scope has 100 yard parallax adjustment that does not aid in precision shooting at 25 yards.
462
California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
After a three-weeks-long closure, the range opened this morning and I took the recently acquired Uberti Cattleman. Accuracy load testing with Lee's 452-255 RF (263-grains with my alloy) and Bullseye was finalized with 6.0-grains. Unique's accuracy load will fall somewhere between 7.5-grains and 8.0-grains, but will have to wait till next season for finalizing. I'm hoping to get out there Monday, because that'll be the range's last open day till May 19th.
Too, I want to test those loads with the Lyman 454190, that also weighs 263-grains. Problem is, it's an older single-cavity that drops in the 456" range. Nothing wrong with casting with a single-cavity mould, but my only lube/sizer die is .452".
Took 26-years to replace my first .45 Colt single-action, and while the wait was agonizing it was well worth it.
Too, I want to test those loads with the Lyman 454190, that also weighs 263-grains. Problem is, it's an older single-cavity that drops in the 456" range. Nothing wrong with casting with a single-cavity mould, but my only lube/sizer die is .452".
Took 26-years to replace my first .45 Colt single-action, and while the wait was agonizing it was well worth it.
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
I have also settled on 6.0 grains of Bullseye for the Lyman 452424 and the RCBS 45-270 bullets. My Uberti has become my winter walking gun due to the cougar, black bear and wolf issues when there is snow on the ridges. Single cavity is fine as I don't shoot more than 50 of each a year. (Hurts my hand too much.)
Hhmmm . . . Does it hurt as much as cougar, black bear and wolf?
fiver
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probably squeeze them down to 454 easy enough and that'd do okay.
years back i had a Bisley model Cattleman that'd been worked over and lightened [traded it in on a USFA] it did like the 255 RNFP on top of 7.5grs of unique, it sooted the side of the cases but shot to the top of the sights just barely.
so 7.5-8.0 should find you a sweet spot like your thinking.
another good one was 6.0grs. titegroup, same pressure etc. but the cases were practically spotless.
years back i had a Bisley model Cattleman that'd been worked over and lightened [traded it in on a USFA] it did like the 255 RNFP on top of 7.5grs of unique, it sooted the side of the cases but shot to the top of the sights just barely.
so 7.5-8.0 should find you a sweet spot like your thinking.
another good one was 6.0grs. titegroup, same pressure etc. but the cases were practically spotless.