RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Finally getting the 40/50 Sharps Straight to work. Big step was going to 30/1 alloy and loading hotter. I wanted about 1250 f/s but 1400 is looking a lot better. Five shots at 100 yards.
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RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Don't know if it is the load, the rifle or me. Ain't getting any younger.
L Ross
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I don't think my TAC is listed as sub sonic only as standard velocity. Subsonic is listed as 1,033 fps and regular TAC 50 fps faster. I dunno, my boxes don't say Subsonic on them. I have shot it in only one semi auto, a full blown Kidd 10-22 clone. Zero malfunctions.
I have TAC, Geco Semi-Auto, (which I believe was pre TAC TAC), Eley Sport, Eley Target, Wolf Match Target, SKS, Blazer, Federal Auto Match, Aguila, and a variety of bricks of regular plated High Velocity Super-X, Federal, Remington, and Aquila ammo around, My go to 80 yard off hand steel prairie dog knocker downers are Auto Match. I am out of any iteration of Lapua at this time and do not plan on ponying up the necessary coin to replace it. Group shooting on paper bores me and I only do it for testing purposes if I plan to shoot .22 at 200 yds. and beyond. Then of course the mix and match of each rifle's chamber and barrel dimensions and various ammo can display markedly different results. Typically though, high quality during the manufacturing process and consistent velocities will rise to the top. A situation similar to our hand made ammo huh?
I have TAC, Geco Semi-Auto, (which I believe was pre TAC TAC), Eley Sport, Eley Target, Wolf Match Target, SKS, Blazer, Federal Auto Match, Aguila, and a variety of bricks of regular plated High Velocity Super-X, Federal, Remington, and Aquila ammo around, My go to 80 yard off hand steel prairie dog knocker downers are Auto Match. I am out of any iteration of Lapua at this time and do not plan on ponying up the necessary coin to replace it. Group shooting on paper bores me and I only do it for testing purposes if I plan to shoot .22 at 200 yds. and beyond. Then of course the mix and match of each rifle's chamber and barrel dimensions and various ammo can display markedly different results. Typically though, high quality during the manufacturing process and consistent velocities will rise to the top. A situation similar to our hand made ammo huh?
Snakeoil
Well-Known Member
Vertical is either you are resting the barrel in a different spot on the rest for every shot, you have a broad variation in bullet weight or you have a wide ES on MV and hence pressure. I'm with Ian. Bump up the powder charge to reduce the pressure variation. Not sure what MM means. I assume WW is wheel weights. LR is Long Range??
Shoot the loads over a chrono. It will give you info on MV which will equate to pressure variations.
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
"MM" is a custom Mountain Mold made just for this rifle's throat, 300 grain round nose flat point. "LR" is large rifle primer.
You are right, as I have not run these over the Chrony since I increased the powder from 23 to 26 grains.
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Norma has their 22LR Match ammo on sale today and tomorrow.
They are advertising Hyper-Velocity, TAC and the Match, but only the Match on sale for 48 hours.
They are advertising Hyper-Velocity, TAC and the Match, but only the Match on sale for 48 hours.
462
California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
This morning range session was with the recently acquired 4 3/4" .45 Colt Uberti/Cimarron Cattleman II.
Bullets: Lyman 454190, Lee 452-255 RF, and Lyman 454424 that Brad included with the purchase of the 454190.
Loads: 6.5 Bullseye, 8.5 Unique, 8.0 SR 7625, 14.5 2400, 9.0 Herco, 18.5 5744. They are the extent of appropriate powders I have on hand. Tried 5744 just because, despite it never being worthwhile in any other gun I've tried. As expected, 2400 and 5744 left a lot of mummies.
Distance: 10-yards, off-hand
The most promising loads/smallest groups were SR7625, 2400 and Herco. 5744 lived up to its reputation of being the most completely worthless powder I've ever tried. I can kick myself for falling for its listings in Lyman's Cast Bullet Handbook, 4th edition. I should have known better, because I know why it's listed so often. You all can kick me too.
Bullets: Lyman 454190, Lee 452-255 RF, and Lyman 454424 that Brad included with the purchase of the 454190.
Loads: 6.5 Bullseye, 8.5 Unique, 8.0 SR 7625, 14.5 2400, 9.0 Herco, 18.5 5744. They are the extent of appropriate powders I have on hand. Tried 5744 just because, despite it never being worthwhile in any other gun I've tried. As expected, 2400 and 5744 left a lot of mummies.
Distance: 10-yards, off-hand
The most promising loads/smallest groups were SR7625, 2400 and Herco. 5744 lived up to its reputation of being the most completely worthless powder I've ever tried. I can kick myself for falling for its listings in Lyman's Cast Bullet Handbook, 4th edition. I should have known better, because I know why it's listed so often. You all can kick me too.
462
California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Think at the time Powder Valley was selling it for $37, while 2400 and Unique were $25.
Cadillac Jeff
Well-Known Member
How was the unique?
Same load in my 44 mag is great, not to much recoil either.
Same load in my 44 mag is great, not to much recoil either.
462
California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
It had the largest group of the six loads, but it gives me a starting point.
Perceived recoil is a funny thing. The .45 Colt Uberti and the .357 Mag. Ruger New Vaquero have weights that are close enough to be called the same, and the same with their grip frame and grips. The Uberti with a Lee 452-255 RF (260-grains with my alloy) and 14.5-grains of 2400 has far less perceived recoil than the Vaquero with a Lee 358-158 RF (160-grains with the same alloy) and 13.5-grains of 2400. Recoil of both is quite manageable, but the difference is very noticeable.
Bazoo
Active Member
Yesterday I went plinking with my buddy. Single Sixes and my 44 Special Blackhawk. He'd never fired the 44 before, and he liked it quite a bit. The load was either 4.4 or 4.8 grains bullseye (we shot some of both) and the RCBS 44-250-K. I'm still getting used to the gun but I think it will do just fine with the 4.8 grain charge. It'll cloverleaf them when I can hold it consistent.
I was showing off my Simply Rugged holster for the Single Six too, he seemed mighty impressed. Time will tell if he's impressed enough to spring for one.
I was showing off my Simply Rugged holster for the Single Six too, he seemed mighty impressed. Time will tell if he's impressed enough to spring for one.
Winelover
North Central Arkansas
Have a couple of pounds of AA5744 that didn't pan out for what I wanted them for. Few years ago, tried some loads in both the 44 Mag RH and the 7.5" 45 LC BH. It did as well, as I could hold, at 60 yards. SR4759 did good, also. I'd have to look up the charge weights, but they would probably a bit much for an Italian clone.................since I load at the Ruger only levels.
Alliant 2400 is my go to powder for all 44's and the 45 LC. However, in near maximum loadings. Also use it in high performance 357 Magnum and 44 Special. Day before yesterday, I cracked open my last 8# jug of it.
Alliant 2400 is my go to powder for all 44's and the 45 LC. However, in near maximum loadings. Also use it in high performance 357 Magnum and 44 Special. Day before yesterday, I cracked open my last 8# jug of it.